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Dell Axim X30 Review
      #11032 - 05/18/04 05:33 AM

You've read our review of the Dell Axim X30 models running Windows Mobile 2003 on the latest Intel XScale processor at http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/Dell_axim_X30.htm .
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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11106 - 05/19/04 09:33 PM

That's great! I hope you enjoy it

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Hi -

I just read your wonderfully written review of the new Dell Axims. I bought one yesterday and it was good to read that I made a good choice as a replacement for my Toshiba PDA (which by the way has bad touch screen after 18 months of use).

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11161 - 05/21/04 06:52 PM

I know what you mean, some screens on some PDAs do make a faint buzzing sound. So far our Axim X30 312 and 624MHz units have been silent. It uses the same display as the X3, which was also silent.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11162 - 05/21/04 07:27 PM

Sorry that while we have a library of many games, Pocket Fritz isn't among them. I wouldn't expect it to have a great impact on battery life, as the intense processing time is very short in chess games.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11197 - 05/22/04 03:42 AM

CF slots are becoming less common on Pocket PCs, most have SD slots. The X30 uses the same casing and many parts from the X3 which also lacks a CF slot.


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Good review. Full of information. But missing a CF slot and i see no mention of it. Why not? CF is widely used, why leave it out?




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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11275 - 05/24/04 07:33 PM

gfDoom runs great on both the 312 and 624MHz X30 models. Quite fast even with graphic detail set to high when running the sharware wad file from the gfDoom site.

MorphGear and games also run fine- no complaints here about game speed.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11317 - 05/25/04 11:48 PM

You don't have to pay any monthly fees to use your GPS.

A spare extended battery might be a good idea if you plan on being away from AC during the day, esp. if you'll be using WiFi/Bluetooth.

As for cases, check out our review: http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/Dell_Axim_X3_cases.htm

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: LisaG]
      #11359 - 05/26/04 08:47 PM

Great review. Just wondering if the X30 is WPA capable?

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: furball]
      #11385 - 05/27/04 06:08 AM

Yes, it supports WPA.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11386 - 05/27/04 06:10 AM

In theory it should work-- though a driver might be necessary. We don't have any BT keyboards on hand however. Can't wait unti the Think Outside wireless Bluetooth keyboard comes out!

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I was wondering if anyone has tried connecting a Bluetooth keyboard with the X30. I know theoretically this ought to be possible, but has anyone actually gotten it to work?

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: LisaG]
      #11388 - 05/27/04 06:41 AM

Axim X30 can i convert it to GPS receiver and what to do if I want to run it in Europe?

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: kofi]
      #11402 - 05/27/04 06:34 PM

Not sure what you mean by "convert" it. You can buy an add-on GPS for the Dell (cabled or Bluetooth). Check out our GPS reviews to get an idea what's out there: http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/GPS/index.htm


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Axim X30 can i convert it to GPS receiver and what to do if I want to run it in Europe?




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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11404 - 05/27/04 06:39 PM

As with most PDA cases designed for the standard battery, you'll find it hard to squeeze the unit in the case when it has the extended battery. For extended battery use, you're best off looking for a case made for that.

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Great review, the cases for the X3/X30 as well. I was wondering how the extended battery goes with the cases.




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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11571 - 05/31/04 07:38 PM

I haven't heard of any plans from Dell to release a VGA Pocket PC. Dell usually shys away from cutting edge technology and goes with affordable mass-market solutions across their product line. As such, I don't think you'll find a VGA Pocket PC as cheap as the Dell X30 models.

ASUS is supposed to have their VGA Pocket PC out in June and HP is rumored to have theirs out in late July (iPAQ 4700). I'm not sure what's up with the the Toshiba e805, which seems to be out in Europe with 2003 SE, but not here in the US or Canada. These are Windows Mobile 2003 SE devices, so all will support landscape to portrait orientation swapping on the fly. The iPAQ 4700 is said to have both BT and WiFi.

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Re: which is better? [Re: ]
      #11605 - 06/01/04 05:51 PM

The Tungsten E and Dell X30 are good choices-- depends if you like Palm or Pocket PC better. The Sony Clie SJ33 was discontinued a while ago, so I wouldn't go with that one.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11654 - 06/02/04 02:49 AM

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Frames Per Second info for Morphgear and PocketQuake would be helpful for me as well.




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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: klkkoman]
      #11675 - 06/02/04 07:12 PM

Both Axim X30 units were set to Max performance under Power settings.

Morphgear running Asteroids:

X30 312MHz gets an average of 30fps
X30 624MHz gets an average of 57fps


PocketQuake (not Quake II)in portrait mode with unpacked shareware game data file uncompressed on a Sandisk 256 meg SD card (that's not a fast card):

X30 312 MHz gets 14.2 fps
X30 624 MHz gets 25.3 fps

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11755 - 06/04/04 07:09 PM

Hmm... it was on our CD. But you can download MS Reader for free from Microsoft.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11756 - 06/04/04 07:10 PM

I don't see any reason why Voice Over IP apps wouldn't work on the X30

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I'm looking to get a pocket pc and want to save money on my current cell phone bill. Does anyone know if the Dell Axim X30 supports voip? I was trying to decide between the x30 and the ipaq h5555.






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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11839 - 06/07/04 06:41 PM

Handwriting recognition seems unchanged on the faster models.

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Re: which is better? [Re: ]
      #11844 - 06/07/04 07:10 PM

My goodness, that reviewer was more than a little cranky. I'd say that s/he exaggerated the points, and yes Windows Mobile 2003 is faster than 2002.

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Re: USB [Re: ]
      #11875 - 06/08/04 07:20 PM

The Axims, like most Pocket PCs, don't support USB host, which means you can't plug USB peripherals directly into it.

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How can I connect an USB-device to the Axim30?




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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11876 - 06/08/04 07:21 PM

Sorry, I don't Kazza.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11879 - 06/08/04 08:28 PM

Is Gauntlet Dark Legacy a Pocket PC game?

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I think you should test the game gauntlet dark legacy on the axim x30 312mhz wireless and a lot more mideaval games but so far i think this pocket pc is great




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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11884 - 06/08/04 10:29 PM

If you're seriously into watching good quality videos on a Pocket PC, I'd recommend a 400MHz (or higher) model. I mean if you want to encode them so they look very nice and will frequently be watching videos on the PPC. You don't need 624MHz to do this, any of the 400MHz PPCs with good graphics benchmarks, such as the iPAQ 2215, Toshiba e805 and ASUS A620 will do a great job.

For folks who occasionally watch videos of the quality available on download sites rather than custom encoded movies at HQ, a slower PPC is fine.

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Re: [Re: ]
      #11916 - 06/10/04 01:23 AM

I just tried it and it runs perfectly.


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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #11946 - 06/10/04 07:10 PM

This FAQ should help you with the transition: http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/palm_to_PPC_and_back.htm

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #12016 - 06/12/04 05:49 PM

It comes with a world charger: 100 - 240V, 50 - 60 Hz. All you should need is a prong adapter (assuming Aussie outlets are different from US).

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #12019 - 06/12/04 05:51 PM

They both can do the things you list and are great units, so it comes down to which one you fancy more. For example, do you want a camera? Do you prefer Palm or Pocket PC OS?

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Re: New Dell X320- Help ME!!!! [Re: ]
      #12427 - 06/21/04 09:35 PM

Do you have a preference for Palm or Pocket PC? That can be a deciding factor.

Also, if WiFi is important to you, there isn't a WiFi card available for the Zire 72 currently.

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      #12491 - 06/23/04 09:57 PM

Palm OS 5 includes many enhancements including better support for running programs from storage cards, support for higher resolutions and Grafitti 2 handwriting recognition.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: LisaG]
      #12512 - 06/24/04 04:31 PM

Not to get off topic too much, but I had a question about the Axim X30's 802.11b encryption. Does it support 128-bit? I couldn't find that in the review or Dell's website. (BTW: Excellent review!!)

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: VirtualCLD]
      #12518 - 06/24/04 06:13 PM

All current Pocket PCs with WiFi support both 64 bit (40 bit) and 128 bit encryption.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: LisaG]
      #12942 - 07/05/04 08:51 PM

I read on another site that there were problems running some 3rd party apps in landscape mode on the Axim X30. Any word on how well Acrobat Reader or RepliGo run in landscape mode? I really need a new device, and I'm now leaning toward a PPC, but pdf access is "mission critical" for me. Thanx

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #13000 - 07/07/04 07:08 PM

Nope.

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Does the Dell's X30's faster (624Mhz) processor vs 400Mhz yield a faster and better performance on the handwritting recognision?

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #13202 - 07/13/04 05:05 AM

You mean Pocket PCs? Since they don't come with Mac syncing software you'd need to buy 3rd party software like MissingSync for Pocket PC from www.markspace.com .

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #13219 - 07/13/04 11:12 PM

Well, I didn't hate the d-pad all that much . Our game reviewer, JadeDragon, likes it well enough.

If you want to play games and watch videos you'll probably want to get an SD storage card. There's a performance hit with a card, but if you get one of the high speed cards it won't be terribly noticeable.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #14589 - 08/20/04 12:25 AM

I understand that the X30 can be used as a digital voice recorder.
How good is the sound quality and how sensitive is the mic?
Also, can the voice recordings be saved to pc like text?


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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: carpenter]
      #14612 - 08/20/04 08:15 PM

Voice recordings are in WAV format and can be transferred to the PC.
Sound quality is good enough for meetings, but you wouldn't want to replace your Mini Disc recorder for live music recordings. The mic is reasonably sensitive- and will record sounds within 6 feet clearly. If the speaker is 30 feet away, they may sound muffled or faint.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: LisaG]
      #14624 - 08/20/04 11:29 PM

OK, Thank you. I think that answers everything.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #14680 - 08/22/04 10:22 PM

Nobody pays for reviews on our site. Period.

Our X30's do not have bad sound in the least.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #14698 - 08/23/04 06:40 PM

Dunno, the sound on our two X30 models is not "deformed". It's not as loud as the iPAQ 2215 (which is one of the loudest Pocket PCs) but it's louder than several other brands and models.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #14700 - 08/23/04 07:04 PM

My 312MHz X30 has great sound- love it for games and movies.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #14825 - 08/27/04 04:51 AM

The Dell doesn't have mobile phone functionality, nor does it have a SIM slot.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #14884 - 08/29/04 12:01 AM

Yes, if a cable is available to connect the phone to the X30, then you can use the phone as a modem for the Dell.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #14928 - 08/30/04 07:01 PM

Sounds like you're missing a setting and the Dell isn't getting an IP address. If you're using a WEP key on the WiFi access point, you'll need to enter that key on the Dell when it connects to your access point. Also, I'm assuming your access point is using DHCP, so check to make sure the Dell is set to use DHCP.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #14956 - 08/31/04 07:18 PM

Dell does sell keyboards, including a Bluetooth one which is a re-branded Think Outside model. Check out our review of the ThinkOutside IR wireless keyboard- that one will also work.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #14958 - 08/31/04 07:27 PM

Powersave (208MHz) definitely helps and probably extends runtimes by about 25%. Turning down screen brightness will also help quite a bit. When is Powersave mode, the unit is plenty fast enough for PIM use.

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Re: USB [Re: LisaG]
      #15086 - 09/03/04 04:30 PM

Well it funny I have asked myself the same question. As Intel's PXA 27x ('Bulverde') chips support USB host which means it should be trivial to add a USB device to these machines. The Asus Mypal A730 reviewed on tomshardware is able to do so with the addition of a cable Asus is bringing out, also the Fujitsu Loox 720 actually comes with a cable for USB host. All these machines are similar in spec. The question is weather or not Dell will come up with the goods for the Axim X30 and produce a USB host cable. It should not be that hard anymore now the Intel chip and Windows 2003 second edition supports this. I have tried to contact Dell on this matter but to no avail. I should point out I have never seen any of these PDAs in the silicon but am trying to figure out which one to buy. From a price point of course the Dell unit is the best but the USB host is the deal breaker for me as imagine being able to stick your Ipod onto your Dell X30 nice.

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Re: USB [Re: Paul_001]
      #15106 - 09/04/04 06:21 PM

Keep in mind that USB host alone won't mean that all USB peripherals will work. You'll need Pocket PC drivers for the USB device, and those are very rare. Keyboards, mice and mass storage devices generally work. Since the iPod is a litle more complex than a dumb USB hard drive, I'm not sure if it would work without a driver.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #15251 - 09/08/04 11:22 PM

Yes, the X30 plays MP3s quite well and comes with Windows Media Player for Pocket PC.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #15380 - 09/12/04 07:20 PM

Hi Joe,
Our X30 312MHz and 624MHz don't have blue tints, have equal sensitivity across the entire LCD and are about as easy to view outside as any transflective Pocket PC (which is to say OK but certainly not great).

We have several SD card reviews which include speed ratings, such as the PNY and Panasonic cards: http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/PNY_Panasonic_SD_cards.htm and the Kingston Pro Elite: http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/kingston_elite_cards.htm . These are some of the fastest SD cards. SanDisk cards are very reasonably priced, but usually benchmark slower.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #15383 - 09/12/04 07:32 PM

We've been using the After5 enhanced capacity battery in our X5 for about a year and it is reliable and does offer increased runtimes thanks to the higher capacity.

Screen protectors are in part a matter of personal preference. I myself don't use them-- I haven't scratched a screen in the past 3 years and like the clarity of a naked display. But some folks worry and feel better with a protector on the PDA, or carry it without a case in thier pocket or bag and thus risk scratching the display.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #15680 - 09/21/04 07:09 PM

Using spb Benchmark, the iPAQ 4150 and X30 312MHz are very close in speed (testing graphics, CPU and file system), with the iPAQ winning by a small margin.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #15698 - 09/22/04 03:57 AM

I will be in a few more days because I'm using both of those units as comparisons to the iPAQ 3715. So look for our iPAQ 3715 review in two days or so, and that will have the benchmarks.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #15720 - 09/23/04 01:17 AM

Our iPAQ rx3715 review with the benchmarks you were interested in is now posted at http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/iPAQ_rx3715.htm .

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #15873 - 09/28/04 05:49 PM

We generally use a fast Palm such as the 400MHz T3 and VFSMark to test card speeds. This benchmark app has been around a while and is respected for it's accuracy. Plus we're using a PDA to test the card, rather than a card reader which introduces way too many variables (card reader speed and USB speed), as you noted . It's harder to find an app that was really designed specifically to test card speeds on Pocket PC, and there are other variables to consider with the Windows Mobile OS such as file system speed, which can vary from model to model.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #15888 - 09/28/04 09:07 PM

Wish I could, but I don't have a Panasonic card. Tanker Bob (who is a Palm person and owns a T3) wrote that review.

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Re: VIDEO!!!!! [Re: ]
      #16270 - 10/11/04 04:13 AM

That depends on the video player you're using. Windows Media Player plays ASF and WMV files. BetaPlayer (free) plays AVI, DivX and MPEG1 movies as does PocketMVP (also free). PocketTV plays MPEG1 files.


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Re: File transfer idea [Re: ]
      #16300 - 10/11/04 10:55 PM

You can't plug in external USB hard drives with the Dells because they don't support USB host which is required for a PDA to use USB peripherals. Few PDAs offer USB host, so it's not a Dell issue. You could attach your hard drive to your PC and drag the files to the Dell or to an SD card in a card reader using Windows Explorer.


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Re: Software [Re: ]
      #16427 - 10/14/04 09:41 PM

We listed the titles that came as full versions on our CD. Perhaps Dell has added some titles? Did you receive full versions of those apps with your unit?

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Re: USB [Re: ]
      #16439 - 10/15/04 07:52 AM

The cable alone won't do the trick. The Dell doesn't have the necessary hardware to support USB host. An Intel processor can support many features, but if the supporting chips, connectors and solder lines aren't added, then you still won't get that feature.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #16440 - 10/15/04 07:54 AM

Yes it can connect to your home WiFi network. The instructions on how to do so are in the manual that comes with the Dell. In addition, you might want to refer to your wireless access point's manual if you run into any snags.

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Im going to buy the Dell Axim30 312 with wi-fi..but i want to make sure first whether or not it can connect to a home wireless LAN. And if so, how do i set it up etc.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Battery case compatibility [Re: ]
      #16732 - 10/25/04 12:04 AM

It probably wouldn't since the extended battery adds a good deal of thickness to the PPC.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Battery case compatibility [Re: ]
      #17021 - 11/03/04 06:04 AM

You could get the SanDisk or Socket SD WiFi cards. Both are reviewed on our site.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #17566 - 11/22/04 08:10 PM

320 x 240 is standard Pocket PC resolution and it is sufficient for normal PDA use. Most games are designed for that size screen at this point, so you won't gain much in terms of gaming by getting a VGA model Pocket PC just yet. Maybe in 6 months, but not now.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review - battery life with mp3 apps [Re: ]
      #17770 - 11/30/04 08:04 PM

It should go about 5 hours with the screen turned off and wireless turned off.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: LisaG]
      #17815 - 12/01/04 09:37 PM

I am considering both the Dell Axim X30 and X50. Do both of these have the capability to display in the landscape mode (in addition to portrait)? Is this an available setting feature?

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: VFish]
      #17817 - 12/01/04 09:46 PM

Yes, they both run Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition which has the ability to switch between portrait and landscape modes.

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Re: Dell Axim X30 Review [Re: ]
      #18059 - 12/12/04 05:43 AM

All PDAs with user replaceable batteries have a backup battery that preserves the contents of memory when you change batteries. So don't take longer than 5 minutes to swap out the battery and you're safe. I think they say you can take as long as 20 or 30 minutes, but why tempt the fates?

You do not have to hold the record button down. Press the record button to begin a recording and press the stop button to end recording. It writes pretty much in real time (there is a buffer, hence a small amount of the recording is in RAM before being written to the card).

There is no external mic input, so she'll need to use the built-in mic.

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SD Card info [Re: LisaG]
      #18722 - 01/10/05 05:47 PM

Hey, I really like the information on the site, very usefull. I've been using my dad's old Palm 3 for the last year and its about time for an upgrade. I first looked at the Palm Tungsten T series, and they looked pretty good. Untill one day I saw the HP rx 3115 at best buy and seriously started considering a PPC. It's still a little pricey for me in college about to get married in june, so I looked at comparable PPC's on the net, found this site and the review on the X30. That and my school sells the mid-0range unit for $200.
So, my questions are; (1)Is there a limit to the size of SD card used for storage? Usually reviews suggest a 128 Mb card but can you use up to the 1 Gb cards? and the second question is, (2) For the X30 mid-range's hardware specs, what is the best sd card brand/speed to get? Considering read speads/write speeds, and storage size. As a side note, I like filling all my storage for some reason. It happens. I bought a 160 Gb HD for my computer to go with the 120 I already had, and had it filled within a week from friends. SO there will be all sorts of media and programs on my PDA. Any help would be awesome.


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Re: SD Card info [Re: rhuken]
      #18726 - 01/10/05 07:55 PM

The mid range X30 would be a great choice and that's a very nice price. You can indeed use a 1 gig card in the X30, and even higher, though 2 gig cards are pricey. You won't need a very fast card unless you're playing on watching videos freqently. Then you'll want a card with very good read speeds. Lexar, Panasonic and ATP cards are some of the fastest and come in large capacities.

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