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Dell Axim X50v Review
      #16341 - 10/12/04 07:00 PM

You've read our review of the Dell Axim X50v VGA Pocket PC at http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/Dell_Axim_X50v.htm . Have any questions or comments? Post them here!

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: ]
      #16347 - 10/13/04 01:07 AM

I tried it on the X50v, the iPAQ hx4700 and my P4 2.6GHz desktop with an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro for a comparison. The Dell did pretty well considering the encoding rate and resolution of the video-- better than I expected. You could tell it dropped some frames (about 4 times there were short jerky spots) but overall it was very watchable. The iPAQ did similarly running WM9 and BetaPlayer. Thanks for another nice test file to keep in my arsenal!

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: LisaG]
      #16359 - 10/13/04 01:09 PM

Hi,

Two questions on your review:

1) Have they resolved the software issue with dpad where some games which ran at normal priority would have trouble with the controls.. for instance.. does redshift legacy work properly now as opposed to the x30 experience..

2) Did you try using morphgear in landscape mode with no virtual controller? I am wondering if the problem you experienced with the virtual controller may have contributed to the frame rate issue.

Good job on the review!

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: ]
      #16362 - 10/13/04 01:34 PM

The X50v doesn't have USB host. So far in the US market, the ASUS A730 is the only VGA Pocket PC with USB host capability.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: Artuk]
      #16366 - 10/13/04 01:52 PM

I'll try Legacy.

There was no problem at all with the virtual controller in MorphGear, rather the apps own buttons (for file open, exit app and etc) didn't draw correctly when a game is running. Running Picard's GAPI fix takes care of that problem but doesn't improve the fps.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: LisaG]
      #16367 - 10/13/04 01:54 PM

Ok, thanks!

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: Artuk]
      #16393 - 10/13/04 07:23 PM

A litle more info for those who play the less demanding ROMs with MorphGear.

I tried some oldie NES games like Galaga and SuperMario Bros. 3 with MorphGear and got around 28fps.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: ]
      #16525 - 10/18/04 12:10 AM

Basically, yes the difference between VGA and QVGA prevents a direct comparison in terms of graphics benchmarks at this point.

Also, though the X50v has a nice Intel 3D accelerated graphics processor, it has some memory bottlenecks that make it a bit slower in some benchmarks compared to the X30 which uses the CPU to handle graphics and on-cpu memory rather than external memory.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: ]
      #16566 - 10/19/04 01:27 PM

True, but the problem is we have hundreds of GAPI titles, and it would be better if the 2700G performed very well with those. Looking into the future, the 2700G could be a great thing, but that won't help us playing current titles this year and into the next.

I actually spoke with Intel about this processor at length and it has some great capabilities, but it may be a bit ahead of its time.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: ]
      #16724 - 10/24/04 02:44 PM

It will be slower for 640 x 480 movies. Really 320 x 240 movies stretched to full screen look very good, and I'd let Pocket Windows Media Player 10 stretch the video. That will help keep file size down as well. You'll probably want to encode at 300 or 350 kbps for better quality, 200 is pretty low.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: LisaG]
      #16842 - 10/27/04 04:47 PM

I know that the speed with this Axim is less than expected (probably due to VGA), my question is how does the speed compare to a 400 mhz processor? I currently have the Asus A716, and was looking to go to the new Dell. I know it is slower than other 624 mhz processors, but is it at least faster than a 400 mhz?

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: Raynne413]
      #16846 - 10/27/04 07:18 PM

The processor itself is very fast, rather it's the graphics processor that benchmark slower. In processor intensive tasks, the X50v will be faster, but in gaming which uses GAPI (most do) the X50v will not seem faster, but instead a bit slower.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: LisaG]
      #16849 - 10/27/04 08:27 PM

Ugh! So in games, the x50 will be SLOWER than my Asus? How horrible! *sniffle sniffle*

If you use the program that will let you run in QVGA mode, would that help some of the problems you run into with morphgear?

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: Raynne413]
      #16858 - 10/28/04 12:02 AM

That probably won't make much of a difference if any at all in terms of increasing graphics speed. The real issue is the graphics processor used in the X50v (an intel 2700G) which has a lot of merits but unfortunately doesn't do well with GAPI performance and GAPI is used by many, many games.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: ]
      #17507 - 11/20/04 01:59 PM

Yes you can. Just get an AV remote application.

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Can I use an Axim x50 like a remote control (TV,DVD,etc..) using the IR port?




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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: ]
      #17531 - 11/21/04 02:31 PM

I did test it and it seemed like standard IR to me with a range of about 8 to 10 feet. However, Dell told us that it is consumer IR. Confusing, I know.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: LisaG]
      #17555 - 11/22/04 02:59 AM

Yes the web site (Australia) says Consumer and the manual says Standard. I suspect it is the later which is correct although I have not tryed Nevo or anything.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: Adrian_Knack]
      #17562 - 11/22/04 12:37 PM

Ah, but that's why I asked Dell PR about this-- because the manual states it's standard IR while the marketing material states it's consumer IR. They told me the manual is wrong. However, the IR doesn't have great range.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: ]
      #17564 - 11/22/04 01:57 PM

If you don't care about having a CF slot, then the X30 624MHz gives you the best bang for the buck. The VGA display on the X50v really is nice for web browsing, photo viewing and Excel though, so if it doesn't break your budget, it might be the best long term choice.

The speaker volume seems similar on both models. Keep in mind that they only output mono through the built-in speaker, so MP3's won't sound nearly as good compared to playing through headphones or external powered stereo speakers.

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Re: Dell Axim X50v Review [Re: LisaG]
      #17580 - 11/23/04 01:41 AM

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Ah, but that's why I asked Dell PR about this-- because the manual states it's standard IR while the marketing material states it's consumer IR. They told me the manual is wrong. However, the IR doesn't have great range.




Shouldn't Consumer IR be faster as well? Maybe someone could benchmark it by doing a file transfer to a laptop (which usually have FIR ports) and reading the transfer speed. I would try it myself but I don't get home to my new X50v till Sunday night. I will try then if nobody else has.

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