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kayen
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Tablet PC vs Notebooks & Wacom pads opinions
      #20447 - 07/05/05 03:14 PM

I was recently considering buying a Wacom Intuos3 6x8 to use with my PC, and I was also looking at notebooks so I can do my browsing, coding, video editing etc. from the couch. It struck me that I should perhaps consider combining the two and go with a convertible tablet PC.

Since I'll always be using it on my lap or a desk I want to get the biggest screen possible which so far seems to be the Toshiba Tecra M4 - I am assuming this model is penabled. It will be rare if ever that I cradle in my arm. The Toshiba has the option of faster Pentium M processors.

What are the screens like compared to an equivalent notebook? Brightness, colour, viewing angle? If I go with a standard notebook I'm leaning towards one of the 15" Toshibas that can do 1400x1050. If I can I'll even get one with a 17" display that can do 1600x1200 (I wish there was a 17" tablet). I intended to stay with 4:3 unless I had no other option.

What can I do with the Intuos that I cannot do with the tablet screen? Besides coding and other things for which I'd definitely use the keyboard, I am mostly going to be working with Maya and Photoshop for graphics, along with video editing and DVD authoring applications. I considered perhaps combining an Intuos3 with a standard notebook, but I don't know how practical this will be in the couch environment, plus I then have to carry the Intuos around along with the notebook. I kind of like the idea of working directly on the image, perhaps more so for general navigation than for actual drawing and model manipulation.

The tablet seemed a nice idea as tool to scribble my coding and graphics design notes, as well as everything else that currently gets scribbled onto the papers in my environment. I'm concerned about the writing ability because I've had a PDA for years and I can write fast, but not nearly as fast as I can on paper. Typing is fine for some things, but not that useful for brainstorming or drawing diagrams.

With a tablet PC can I use the pen for navigation even when the keyboard is active? I've never been particularly good with laptop mouse navigation, although I think the Toshiba has the eraser thing that IBM use and I've had the most success with those.

What features would I get with a replacement Wacom pen over the one that comes with the M4? Do Wacom have a same-size replacement? Anyone have any complaints about the included pen?

If I need a customised M4 can I get it anywhere other than direct from Toshiba?

I was planning to go straight to 1GB RAM - is Tablet Windows more of a hog than XP Pro without the tablet features? I'm not sure if I should go with the default processor or bump it up - I'm thinking as fast as possible is a good idea as rendering and compiling always take too long no matter how fast the processor (I will probably offload final renders to the desktop where they can run at their leisure).


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Re: Tablet PC vs Notebooks & Wacom pads opinions [Re: kayen]
      #20497 - 07/09/05 08:39 AM

WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Think U need a komputer consultant? Mega questions here folks.... A number of them imply you must do more homework. MOST the info it OUT THERE, you search vis Google and the mag websites and sit in B&N reading the mags while you sip latte...
BUT
From the goodness of my heart, the following-

I was recently considering buying a Wacom Intuos3 6x8 to use with my PC, and I was also looking at notebooks so I can do my browsing, coding, video editing etc. from the couch. It struck me that I should perhaps consider combining the two and go with a convertible tablet PC.
A: I have a wacom 12 x 12 for sale if you dont go tablet. No dont ask me about it they have been tested and around for years.

Since I'll always be using it on my lap or a desk I want to get the biggest screen possible which so far seems to be the Toshiba Tecra M4 - I am assuming this model is penabled. It will be rare if ever that I cradle in my arm. The Toshiba has the option of faster Pentium M processors.
Re my Toshiba S22 whatever OF COURSE it uses pen. ITSA TABLET. Speed is adequate but no fireball at 1.6

What are the screens like compared to an equivalent notebook? Brightness, colour, viewing angle? If I go with a standard notebook I'm leaning towards one of the 15" Toshibas that can do 1400x1050. If I can I'll even get one with a 17" display that can do 1600x1200 (I wish there was a 17" tablet). I intended to stay with 4:3 unless I had no other option.
THERE ARE NO EQUIVALENT NOTEBOOKS. Screens vary all over the map. Hence this question cannot be answered. My Tosh 822 has a glare resistant screen with excellent vision, but narrow viewing angle. No such t hing as 17 tablet...

What can I do with the Intuos that I cannot do with the tablet screen? Besides coding and other things for which I'd definitely use the keyboard, I am mostly going to be working with Maya and Photoshop for graphics, along with video editing and DVD authoring applications. I considered perhaps combining an Intuos3 with a standard notebook, but I don't know how practical this will be in the couch environment, plus I then have to carry the Intuos around along with the notebook. I kind of like the idea of working directly on the image, perhaps more so for general navigation than for actual drawing and model manipulation.

You must be in the bucks? no ans here

The tablet seemed a nice idea as tool to scribble my coding and graphics design notes, as well as everything else that currently gets scribbled onto the papers in my environment. I'm concerned about the writing ability because I've had a PDA for years and I can write fast, but not nearly as fast as I can on paper. Typing is fine for some things, but not that useful for brainstorming or drawing diagrams.

Typing is a tool just as the pencil.

With a tablet PC can I use the pen for navigation even when the keyboard is active? I've never been particularly good with laptop mouse navigation, although I think the Toshiba has the eraser thing that IBM use and I've had the most success with those.

Yes.

What features would I get with a replacement Wacom pen over the one that comes with the M4? Do Wacom have a same-size replacement? Anyone have any complaints about the included pen?

Time to research in detail the two websites for these items. No complaints on the S822 tosh tab pc pen


If I need a customised M4 can I get it anywhere other than direct from Toshiba?

I was planning to go straight to 1GB RAM - is Tablet Windows more of a hog than XP Pro without the tablet features? I'm not sure if I should go with the default processor or bump it up - I'm thinking as fast as possible is a good idea as rendering and compiling always take too long no matter how fast the processor (I will probably offload final renders to the desktop where they can run at their leisure).

My machine has 512 Ram. adequate. IMHO you cant do enough work to clog the machine unless you turn your brain off and fill your PShop or whatever pages full of undeleted useless stuff you have scrapped for the final image. This is a tool for moderate work NOT a high end graphics machine as used by illustrators in large offices.

Bottom of machine gets warm its a skinny laptop and DONT BLOCK THE UNDERSIDE AIR VENTS. I sit in bed and do work with it, bend the screen to any comfortable angle. I draw and use the pen. Layers. Min of text as I sketch tho. EZ to do. Fine machine

Wanna sketch? Wanna draw? Wanna trace over? Wanna change coloors? Add text? etc etc OK tablet is your machine. But no 24 x 32 inch 24 layer renderings?

L

Ah LUVES mah Toshiba 14" Tab PC only 5 weeks new. The speech commends and recognition is a bonus, as is conversion of speech to text. BUT it aint easy to ease into it, they have hidden all the commands and variants for it........


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kayen
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Re: Tablet PC vs Notebooks & Wacom pads opinions [Re: larryINmich]
      #20501 - 07/09/05 12:48 PM

Thanks for the answers.

There is no such thing as Barnes & Noble here.

Machines like the Tecra M4 are not available in shops - I have to buy online, unseen, hence the questions. I have done extensive research and much of the information was vague at best; there were no clear answers to any of the questions I posted. If I could just walk into a shop and try a tablet PC I wouldn't waste hours online trying to get information.

There are many equivalent notebooks.

Penabled is not the same as uses a pen. Some tablets are not penabled. I now know that most second generation models are penabled.

I am not aware of any reviews comparing using the Intuos3 versus a Tablet PC using Wacom's screen technology. Getting feedback from people who use their equipment for more than just art or just general computer tasks is important.

Every Wacom tablet model is different. Newer models have new features.

Wacom and Toshiba both had vague information about the replacement pens on their sites and they didn't respond to me queries.

For Maya I'm currently using the learning edition of 6.5 - cost me $20; and I picked up a copy of Photoshop 7 for a song.

It is very easy to use 1Gb of RAM when coding, and almost as easy with graphics.

It does look like the Tecra M4 will be a decent desktop replacement - 2GHz processor, 1Gb RAM plus the 6600 Go will make it more powerful than my current desktop. And if I feel the need I can always connect it to my desktop display for final work.


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