Ok.. before you say no way. Consider this. I don't want to pay for a phone,.and there are only a.few free smartphones on Verizon. I have the Incredible. Love it! Got it before Verizon had iphones. At that time I kind of wanted one, and the Incredible was close to it. I don't want one now. The only reason I want a new phone is because after almost 2 years the battery is getting weak. I text, surf some , like good camera features, and of course want decent phone features. Lastly, I will be living in a non 4G area. So getting the 3G Incredible 2 would be fine. I can wait a little longer, if anyone has better suggestions... Thanks!